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Recounts and Contests Study (Review and Add Comment)

 

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Recounts and Contests study 

 



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General Comments

1.  Comments about what constitutes “official results” seem out of place in this document.  See pages 7 and 9.  Suggest removing these comments.

2.  Based on errors in state tables (see corrections to six of the tables below), suggest sending document to each state for review for accuracy.  EAC has a process for reviewing state-specific information and should use it for all publications

3.  If a table goes onto a second page, repeat the header row at the top of the 2nd page.


nbainestrella 05/04/2010 08:11 AM

Design and Testing (Page 5) – In the 2nd sentence in the 2nd paragraph (“Some jurisdictions conduct . . .”), either remove reference to “Election Day” or add references to early voting and absentee voting.


nbainestrella 05/04/2010 08:12 AM
Accounting and Reconciliation (page 5) – The 2nd sentence in the 1st paragraph (“It is critical that the correct number of legitimate votes be counted for each candidate.”) seems more appropriate under “Counting” paragraph on the same page.


nbainestrella 05/04/2010 08:13 AM

Votes on each type of ballot (page 7) – In the 3rd paragraph under Paper Ballots (“the Michigan law is clear . . .”), replace “valid vote” with “valid ballot” as the Michigan law dictates that the ballot – not the vote – be reviewed for distinguishing marks.  In the same paragraph, replace “how a valid ballot is counted” with “what a valid vote is.”  Looking for a cross in the proper circle or square is determining whether the vote is valid, not how a valid ballot is counted.

 Votes on each type of ballot (page 7) – In the 3rd sentence in the 1st paragraph (“Assuming the voter marks the ballot appropriately, the ballot will be counted correctly.”), there are other assumptions that must be made for this statement to be true.  The optical scan voting unit must be tested to make sure that it is working properly, the timing marks printed on the ballot must be aligned according to the manufacturer’s specifications, the paper must be of the correct size and weight, etc.

Votes on each type of ballot (page 7) – The last two sentences in the 2nd paragraph (“The law then defines how votes are counted.  ‘[T]he return printed by the electronic vote-tabulation equipment . . . [shall] . . . constitute the official return of each precinct’ (CO-1-7-507)”). are unrelated to a “valid vote.”  As a result, I suggest removing these sentences as they address what constitutes official results.

Votes on each type of ballot (page 8) – There are audits that can be performed with DREs without voter verifiable audit trails.  The current text (“also recognizes the need for there to be a second, auditable count available” in the last sentence under “Electronic Voting”) does not address this.  Suggested rewrite:  . . . also recognizes the need for auditing and reconciliations.”


nbainestrella 05/04/2010 08:14 AM
Case Study: Voter Intent in Virginia (page 9) – The 3rd and 4th sentences in the 3rd paragraph (“ Virginia’s intent standard for DREs . . .”) discuss how a recount is conducted.  This information is more appropriate under the Recount section (starting on page 12) than under “Valid Vote.”  Suggest removing the text from this section.


nbainestrella 05/04/2010 08:14 AM

Table 1: Valid Vote Standards (pages 10-11) – Maryland has an objective standard for what constitutes a valid vote.  See Code of Maryland Regulations, 33.08.02.

Table 2: Types of Recounts (pages 13-14) – While a “citizen” can initiate a recount, the “citizen” must be a registered voter in Maryland.  If the citizen is not a candidate, the citizen can only file a petition for a recount of a ballot question for which s/he is eligible to vote.  As long as the voter follows the required recount procedures, the recount is guaranteed.  Suggest footnote explaining limitation of non-candidate citizen and correction to sentence explaining that citizen-initiated recounts are not guaranteed (they are if all of the procedures are followed). 

Table 4: Method of Recount (page 18) – What does “Varies” (header of 4th column) mean?  In Maryland, a petitioner for a recount can select either a hand/manual recount or a machine re-tabulation.  Does “varies” mean “both”?

Table 5: Who Pays for a Recount (page 19-20) – Please add an asterisk in the “Petitioner” column for Maryland.    In Maryland, a petitioner for a recount pays for the record unless the outcome of the election is changed, the petitioner gains a certain number of votes, or the margin of difference is 0.1% of less.  See Election Law Article, § 12-107(b)(2), Annotated Code of Maryland.

Table 6: Observing a Recount (pages 21-22) – All columns should have an “X” for Maryland.  Recounts are open to the public.  See Election Law Article, § 12-106(a)(2), Annotated Code of Maryland and Code of Maryland Regulations 33.12.03.02A.  The sentence above Table 6 should be adjusted accordingly.

Table 7: Legal Standing to Contest an Election Outcome (pages 23-24) – Please add an “X” in the Candidate/Party column for Maryland.  In Maryland, a registered voter can seek judicial relief.  See Election Law Article, 12-202(a), Annotated Code of Maryland.  As candidates must be registered voters, a candidate has legal standing to contest an election outcome.  A political party, however, does not. 

Table 7: Legal Standing to Contest an Election Outcome (pages 23-24) – Please add an “X” in the Candidate/Party column for Maryland.  In Maryland, a registered voter can seek judicial relief.  See Election Law Article, 12-202(a), Annotated Code of Maryland.  As candidates must be registered voters, a candidate has legal standing to contest an election outcome.  A political party, however, does not. 


nbainestrella 05/04/2010 09:49 AM

Conducting a Recount (page 17) – In the 2nd sentence of the 3rd paragraph under “What is recounted?”, add “or the appropriate official” as a parenthetical comment after “Secretary of State.”   This parallels the language on page 16.  See 1st sentence in 1st paragraph under “When is a recount started. . .”

Conducting a Recount (page 17) – In the 2nd bullet of “How is a recount conducted?”, add “be” between “should” and “tested.”


nbainestrella 05/04/2010 09:49 AM
Election Contests (page 24) – In the 2nd sentence in the paragraph under Table 7, “who” should be “whom” and there should be a period at the end of the sentence.
nbainestrella 05/04/2010 09:50 AM

sedwards 05/04/2010 10:02 AM

wtailor 05/04/2010 02:01 PM

Page 3 - first bullet, "The Ballot.", first sentence should be revised.  Not sure exactly what that is trying to say, so I do not have a suggestion on how to fix.

Page 3 - last paragraph beginning with "The EAC", take out "the" between "by" and "HAVA"

Page 10 - below "Determining Voter Intent", following first sentence in second paragraph is a random "15"

Page 18 - Table 4, Georgia should have an "X" in the "Machine Re-tabulation" column


wtailor 05/04/2010 02:07 PM

Page 7, Paragraph beginning "Optical scan ballots", 4th sentance should be "such as circling candidate names" not "such a"


dbedford1 05/04/2010 06:33 PM

Page 15, "Who coducts the recount?" table lists Louisiana under heading "Court".  Louisiana allows a candidate to make a written request for the parish board of election supervisors to recount the absentee by mail and early voting ballots for his office if the number of absentee by mail and early voting balltos cast for all candidates for an office could make a difference in the outcome of the election.  LSA-R.S. 18:1313(I)(2)(a).  This is before an election contest is filed with a court and is in addition to a recount prior to the trila of an election contest suit in LSA-R.S. 18:1451.

Pages 21-22, "Observers and Monitors" table lists Louisiana with NO "X" marks.  Any recount by the parish board of election superviors is open to the public, which would include all candidates and media. 


alaplace 05/11/2010 04:56 PM

lbrown 05/13/2010 11:38 AM

Page 20 regarding Table 5: Who Pays for a Recount. West Virginia should have an asterik beside the X.

Page 22 regarding Table 6: Observing a Recount. West Virginia allows observation by Candidates/Parties, Public and Media, therefore, please place an X in each box.

Page 24 regarding Table 7: Legal Standing to Contest an Election Outcome. An election outcome can be contested by any person, therefore, an X needs to be added to the first column in this table.


lbrown 05/13/2010 12:30 PM

ncolonberlingeri 05/13/2010 03:25 PM

On Page 22, Ma. allows the media and public to observe recounts from behind a guard rail. The candidates involved are able to closely observe.


jmcgarry 05/13/2010 04:31 PM

Page 3 - first bullet, "The Ballot.", needs to be rewritten.  I think it should read, "There are numerous steps in election administration prior to the time when recounts and contests can be conducted."


jalcorn 05/14/2010 12:25 PM
The report distinguishes between paper and optical scan ballots on page four but in other parts of the report, it uses the term paper ballots in a more general sense that includes optical scan ballots. For example, Page 10: "Questions about voter intent may arise any time a voter casts a ballot on paper." The preceding section discusses Virginia's experience with paper and optical scan ballots. Page 16: "Recounts of paper ballots, for example, can sometimes be recounted by re-tabulating through electronic scanners." From my perspective, a paper ballot is a vote cast on a piece of paper that is not formatted to be read by a machine and therefore must be handcounted. An optical scan ballot is a vote cast on a piece of paper that is formatted to be read by a machine. Therefore, while the medium may be the same (paper) they are formatted and counted differently.
jalcorn 05/14/2010 12:40 PM

Page 9, bullet three.  “target circle” should be “target area” as mentioned in the first full paragraph on page 9.


jalcorn 05/14/2010 12:42 PM

Page 12: Recommend change “contest” to “election” or “campaign.”  Since this report discusses contests and recounts, this sentence might be confusing to a reader.


jalcorn 05/14/2010 12:44 PM

Page 15, “What is the scope of the recount?”  Virginia updated their recount laws after the 2005 recount and this sentence is no longer accurate.  See Va. Code Ann. § 24.2-802(D)(3) (amended 2008).  Virginia now runs all optical scan ballots through the scanners in a recount.


jalcorn 05/14/2010 12:48 PM

Page 20, It is correct that Virginia’s recount costs are paid by the petitioner if the recount does not change the outcome of the election in some situations.  The counties and cities pay the cost when “there was between the candidate apparently nominated or elected and the candidate petitioning for the recount a difference of not more than one-half of one percent of the total vote cast for the two such candidates.”  See Va. Code Ann. § 24.2-802(E)(iii).


jalcorn 05/14/2010 12:52 PM

On page 10, Table 1: the author may want to look at Ohio Revised Code Section 3506.21 and add an "X" under "Voter Intent" for Ohio.

Table 5: Who Pays for a Recount: An "X" should be placed under "Government" for Ohio.  Also, the author may want to insert two asterisks next to the "X" under "Petitioner" and add the following footnote: "** indicates that deposit paid for a recount may be refunded, in whole or in part, depending upon the results of the recount."

Table 6: Observing a Recount: An "X" should be placed both under "Public" and "Media" for Ohio.


bseskes 05/14/2010 05:11 PM

Pennsylvania would like to address inaccuracies in five of the charts.

 

Page10/11- Table 1 Valid Vote Standards PA should have an X under “Objective” not “Voter Intent”

 

Page 15/16- Table 3 Who Conducts a Recount PA should be placed in the “Election Official” column rather than “Court”

 

Page 18/19- Table 4 Method of Recount PA should have an X under “Varies”

 

Page 19/20- Table 5 Who Pays for a Recount PA also should have an X under “Government” as well as “Petitioner”

 

Page 23/24- Table 7 Legal Standing to Contest an Election Outcome PA should have an X in both columns


charhut 05/14/2010 06:10 PM
On page 18 in Table 4: Method of Recount, North Dakota should be given an X under Varies since in every recount the accuracy of voting machines used on election day is verified and the candidates are given the option between a Hand or Machine re-tabulation. Whether the re-tabulation is done by hand or machine, every ballot is reviewed by all candidates involved in the recount, by the recount board, and the recount official. If a machine recount is selected, a candidate may request any ballot to be hand counted if they believe the machine could not be able to determine the intent of the voter.
jsilrum 05/14/2010 07:25 PM
On page 19, Table 5 should have its title changed to "Who Pays for an Initiated Recount" since the text above the table states that most governments pay for automatic recounts and the table itemizes by state who pays for initiated recounts.
jsilrum 05/14/2010 07:39 PM
Depending on what is meant specifically by "observing a recount," North Dakota should be given an X under all three categories since the public and media are invited to observe the recount as it takes place. The candidates and Parties are obviously allowed to participate in the recount, which is not the case for the public and media.
jsilrum 05/14/2010 07:47 PM

Table 2 - Maine does not have Automatic recounts, only candidate initiated.  Please remove the X under Automatic recounts.

Table 3 - In Maine, the Secretary of State conducts the recount not the election official.  Please correct accordingly. 

Table 4 - In Maine, the method of recount is always Hand/manual.  Please add an X under hand/manual.

Table 5 - In Maine, the petitioner pays a deposit (from $0 to $10,000) for the recount depending on the percentage difference of votes between the first and second place candidates.  The deposit is refunded if the recount changes the outcome of the election.  In most cases, the deposit does not pay for the entire cost of the recount. 

In Table 6 - In Maine, candidates/parties, the public and the media can observe the recount, so all 3 options should be checked.

In Table 7 - In Maine, a candidate has standing to contest an election outcome (not a party), but since the only option is candidate/party, that should be checked.


jflynn 05/14/2010 09:22 PM
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